03 July 2009 ~ Comments

The Real Reason Women Are Often Not Attracted To “Nice Guys”

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Okay, so you are nice, caring, sensitive, and a polite guy. You have gone out with this woman who has also been your very good friend. You two have always had a great time. You feel that both of you have opened up about your feelings and you really like her.

But when you have tried to become more intimate with her, you have heard something like this: “You’re such a nice guy, I would rather just be your friend.”

“What is wrong here? Why isn’t she attracted to me?” you wonder. You know that you are such a nice guy. You do all of the right things that a man is supposed to do – you take her out to eat; you offer to pay for the meal; and you are polite, respectful, and always caring. You have opened up to her about your feelings, and listened to her talk about her feelings as well. She might even have complained about her ex-boyfriend or husband for being such a jerk. Yet you are confused because she is not interested in dating you, even though you are so nice!

Yes, this can be confusing. But let me help you understand one of the common mistakes “nice guys” often make. First of all, the truth is that women do like nice guys. After all, I have never heard any women say: “Oh, I am so excited, I am marrying such a jerk.” ☺ Of course not. It is usually only after some time in the relationship, often through unfortunate misunderstandings, and also because we men often unknowingly are being jerks to women, that men get to be called that.

Because women often say to nice guys that they would just rather be friends, it is easy to mistakenly assume that the reason she does not want to date you or is not attracted to you is because you are nice. Well, believe it or not, more often than not this is just not true.

Let me explain. What has happened is that over the last thirty years many women have complained about men not being sensitive or willing to share their feelings. Unfortunately, the result of this has been that more and more guys have decided to become sensitive, caring guys by opening up too much about their vulnerable feelings. And it’s the “nice guys” who have, time and again, fallen into this pit.

So, if you as a guy share too much of your vulnerable feelings with women what will likely happen is that you will easily become even more vulnerable and sensitive. This can be a big turn-off for women. As soon as a woman starts to feel that she has to console you and care too much about your feelings, you have put her into the mothering mode. The consequence of this is that you have now become yet another child or pet for her to take care of and all of her sexual feelings towards you have dissipated, as I am sure you can imagine. While some women may encourage you to share more of your feelings, since they always feel good about being there for you and supporting you, in reality, if you become too sensitive, it will be very hard for her to maintain a sexual attraction to you.

This may sometimes happen unconsciously to women. They may not even honestly be able to pinpoint why there is no attraction, but now you know why. By realizing that when women say they want a sensitive, nice guy, what they really mean is that they want someone with whom they feel comfortable and safe to share their own feelings. When a woman feels safe enough to share her feelings without having to worry about hurting you or about you taking anything personally, she will suddenly find you very attractive. So, it is not that she does not want a sensitive, nice guy, but what she does want is a guy who will be sensitive and “nice” with her feelings.

The reason she said to you: “You are such a nice guy, I would rather be your friend,” was so that she would not hurt you. The more she has to worry about your feelings, the less she can explore her own.

So, if you are one of these nice, sensitive guys who likes to share feelings, my advice to you is simply to toughen up ☺. This does not mean that you still cannot be nice. But realize that the reason many women are often attracted to men who appear to be jerks is because even if these men do not really respect her, at least she does not have to worry about hurting his feelings. So, while it is good to be nice, it is important that you don’t appear to be “nicer” than the woman. A woman’s self-esteem is often tied to being nice. If you appear to be nicer than she is, it becomes harder for her to maintain her self-esteem.

Again, let me clarify, this does not mean that you shouldn’t be nice to women. Being nice and respectful is always very attractive. But what you don’t want to do is share too much of your vulnerable feelings or your worries with your date or the woman that you are trying to win over. If you do have some worries or vulnerable feelings, share them with your guy friends, with a therapist, or with your mother, where they belong. By doing this you will ensure that you are primarily there for her to make it save for her to share her feelings.

Of course, if you are in a committed relationship, it is fine to share some of your vulnerable feelings with your partner every now and then, as long as you remember that the more you can be there for her, the more intimate she will feel with you, and the more you will ensure that the romantic attraction and passion in your relationship will last.

I commend you for being a nice and caring guy. Nice guys don’t have to finish last. I hope this insight will help you as much as it has helped me, and I wish you much success in your romantic relationships,

Mikko Kemppe


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  • rosieulibarri
    Wow!! really thats an interesting topic, and I like how you explain it! Do you have any suggestions for a woman who was used to date bad guys, and now has a relationship with a nice guy?? It`s just that, sometimes it makes me feel a little bit weird and I dont know how to react for too much interest or vulnerability...
  • Hi Rosieulibarri,

    Can you be a little more specific? How are you feeling weird and having trouble to reacting to too much interest or vulnerability? Wish you the best!
  • rosieulibarri
    My father is an alcoholic, so you know my past relationships were a lot like his relationship with my mom. So now, when my boyfriend keeps telling me how much he cares about me, or those things; It makes me feel weird, because I dont know how to react.Its my first relationship without being the girl that was always pursuing him. Now its like the roles are different...like it has to be! But I dont know if I`m sabotaging me by being a little bit distant from him, so that I could not fall in love with him...Im thinking that I dont have to feel like this, It`s suposed that I have to feel good and not missing the way the bad guys treated me right?? help!
  • Hi Rosie, yes, I think you are on a right track. Pat yourself on the back. Yes, you are definitely supposed to feel good and not miss the way a bad guy treats you.

    Sometimes it is hard to accept and feel worthy of love and support. I remember, when my first real dream that I had been dreaming for years became a reality. I received a basketball scholarship to come to United States to play basketball on Division 1 from Finland.

    But then all of sudden, I started having insecurities whether I am a good enough basketball player after all and whether I even deserve the scholarship or not. I started feeling like I should just stay in Finland. After all Finland was comfortable and what I had been used to.

    But let me tell you. Moving to the United States although it was very uncomfortable, especially at first, and I had doubts whether I deserved to be here has been the best thing that I have ever done for myself.

    Realize that it is normal to have doubts and feel weird about receiving love and support and what you deserve. The key is simply to be grateful and realize that you do deserve all of the love and support in the world.

    So the next time your boyfriend tells you something nice, simply look him in the eye and tell him thank you and feel how grateful you are to have someone like him in your life. You deserve it!
  • rosieulibarri
    thank you!! I really was worried about my feelings and my fear! but now I can see things clearly! :)
  • rosieulibarri
    Wow!! Really interesting topic, do you have any suggestions to a woman that was used to date bad guys, and now she is in a relationship with a nice guy? It makes me feel a little bit weird sometimes...
  • fred
    Dear Mikko

    Thanks so much for your precious advice, I m going a taff period with my gf and one of the mistake i ve done is being too nice, vunerable and swee as you advise to don t be and knowing on top that she told me need a strong man and taff but also want sweet as i m.

    But now i ve been weak and cry in front of her and show that I ve been very concern about her comment taking personal so now she might develop what i don t want to become in her eyes.

    So my question is how to get back being the strong man in her eyes, here to listen and hear and support her and not be the vulnerable man affected by her discussion and comment.

    Can you advise me how to behave now to be that strong man in her eyes to ensure that I m primarily there for her to make it save for her to share her feelings.

    So she does not have to worry about hurting his feelings.

    So what do i have to do and how to behave to make her feels safe again enough to share her feelings without having to worry about hurting me or about me taking anything personally, so she will suddenly find me very attractive again ?

    What can i change or do to make her see me again strong and not taking personally her feeling ?

    How to behave so she stop see me weak ?

    Many thanks for your answering as soon as you can, i ve read all your advise about apologyies to woman and i ve to admit it s very instructive and helpfull.

    Best
  • Hey Fred!!

    Thanks for asking! That is a good question. I would start by simply making sure you are not sharing too much of your vulnerable feelings with her. Make sure you have lots of friends, activities, and goals that you are pursuing in your life.

    Hanging out with other guys who have similar goals is a good idea. Share some of your frustrations or worries about life with them instead. Take some time for yourself. Or if you need to cry to someone and something really stressful is happening in your life, go talk to a good therapist.

    Then before you see her next time, make sure you are in a centered place and rather talk to her about your worries plan a nice date for her instead.

    There is no need for you try to make her open up or to share her feelings at this point. Simply concentrate more on developing yourself, your goals, and your ambitions in life. And then when you do see her, make sure you are asking and being interested in her instead of sharing too much about yourself.

    If you do this, soon she will come to see you as the stud you are again :)!!
  • Indiana
    I got a vulnerable feeling to share with you guys!

    I Love you Mikko!
  • Thanks Indiana :)! We love you in this blog too :)!!
  • urbanchick
    Adriana said, "Nice guys can often even be more troubling than jerks becaue they think so HIGLY of themselves" - very true. Sometimes nice guys can try so hard to be nice they're reall wrapped up in themselves and not displaying their true feelings. Or he's so intent on being 'nice' that it's more about what he's trying to do rather than what the woman wants; as a result he fails to make a true connection with the woman. Because he's actually insensitive to satisfying her needs, the woman is turned off.


    On another point, Mikko, I don't think it's that an attractive man doesn't care if women hurt their feelings, it's that the man APPEARS not to care what anyone thinks. It's that kind of confidence that women find attractive. And you can be a nice guy and have exude this confidence. The vulnerability you're referring to is when a guy comes off as indecisive or needy, or seeming too concerned about what the women thinks of him personally. The sensitivity we find attractive is the politeness and consideration he demonstrates for wanting to please us. And the willingness/drive to do so.

    So the chemical formula is -

    [Confident "I don't care what anyone else thinks of me" attitude]+ [considerate/willing to satisfy my needs] = perfect guy.
  • Hi Urbanchick,

    Thanks for the great chemical formula for a perfect guy :)!!

    What you said here was excellent, I completely agree:
    "Sometimes nice guys can try so hard to be nice they’re reall wrapped up in themselves and not displaying their true feelings. Or he’s so intent on being ‘nice’ that it’s more about what he’s trying to do rather than what the woman wants; as a result he fails to make a true connection with the woman. Because he’s actually insensitive to satisfying her needs, the woman is turned off."

    And yes,
    "The vulnerability you’re referring to is when a guy comes off as indecisive or needy, or seeming too concerned about what the women thinks of him personally"

    you are right that is exactly what I am referring to.

    Also, you said:
    "On another point, Mikko, I don’t think it’s that an attractive man doesn’t care if women hurt their feelings, it’s that the man APPEARS not to care what anyone thinks. It’s that kind of confidence that women find attractive."

    I agree, with the clarification that it is not that he does not care what anyone thinks because he does. However, he does not let anyone else define him for who he is. In other words, although he cares what others think he does not let others negative judgments hold him down or keep him from doing what he wants to do. This is what makes him attractive: he cares and considers what others think and is thus able to be sensitive to other people's feelings, yet he does not let anybody's negative judgments hold him down or make him worried about how he appears.

    And so yes absolutely, you can be a nice, polite, and caring guy and still exude this kind of confidence.
  • "By realizing that when women say they want a sensitive, nice guy, what they really mean is that they want someone with whom they feel comfortable and safe to share their own feelings."

    This does nothing but verify what I have always seen to be true: women will say one thing, but mean something else altogether. If I do it, I'm lying or it counts as a lie of omission. If a women does it, it's just her subconcious. This drives insane.
  • Hi Jeff, I understand your frustration. However, the reality is that both men and women are often not honest about how we feel
    and able to communicate clearly what we want in life. We men often say one thing and really mean something altogether different as well.

    For example, take a guy who crashes on the couch to watch TV after a long day stressful day at work. His wife sees him stressed out and decides to come to talk to him. Interrupting his TV session, she comes to questions about his work day as a way of showing how much she cares about him.

    She asks: "Honey how was that meeting at work?"
    He says: "It was fine"
    She says: "But how did the contract signing go? Were you guys able to get everything done?"
    He says: "It went fine."
    (But if he is getting annoyed by her questions, what he really means is:
    "Honey, I appreciate your interest in my life, but could we talk about this later, I am little stressed out
    and I appreciate if you would just trust me to let me deal with my work problems on my own. I would
    be happy to talk with you later once I have relaxed a little bit first".

    So by simply saying: "It went fine", he is really not communicating the whole truth about what he
    he feels and what he would really want from her.

    So by realizing that both men and women often assume the other person to understand what
    we mean when we communicate with each other we can learn to have more compassion toward each other.
  • T
    Great post and a very interesting read. You make some very good points about nice guys and how that, at times, can be a reason as to why women don't proceed into a romantic relationship. I've definitely gone through my share of "bad boys" (which can be just as unattractive to women) but like you said, nice guys don't have to finish last. There is definitely a good in between there and it makes for a nice relationship.
  • Adriana Breidenstein
    Thank you for exploring this topic. This is a very simplistic answer and a very good start. Mostly though I think tha when a woman says she'd rather be friends is because she feels different feeling not jut related to "nice." It evn maybe jsut physical - like - "he's too short " or "I don't like a guy who works Mon-Fri - 9 - 5 am and never travels."
    Like men - women don't say everything either.
    There's anothr issue and that is that the guy who "thinks" he is so "nice" to woman all the time - this issue in and by itself can be a huge Self-Esteem issue and you can't get past it unless the guy goes to the ManKind Project of soem sort and beats the sh.t out of the mattress to get over his mother...
    Just a few thoughts. Nice guys can often even be more troubling than jerks becaue they think so HIGLY of themselves - you actually said that - "They can't be nicer than women " but it has to be a healthy demeanor that has worked itself out thru the rage, the anger, the discomfort etc..
    Thanks and I love your articles! Adriana
  • Mikko
    Thanks Adriana for giving us yet another interesting angle to the mysterious female mind :). I can definitely see how women can also use the phrase: "You are nice, but I would just rather be friends" as a way of end dating a guy due to a lack of attraction, interest, or compatibility in general, and how this may not necessarily have anything to do with his "niceness". Very good point.
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    I also agree with you about the importance of "nice" guys to actually accept themselves for who they are, and how our past childhood conditioning does play a big part of who we have become and how we see ourselves as adults. Fortunately, there is other ways besides having to beat the shit out of a mattress to get over your mother to deal with these past unresolved issues, LOL. But more on that on my other blogs :).
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